Every once in a while, all the negative discourse about undocumented immigration (mainly from Mexico and Central America) just gets to me and I shut down. I’ve read books and articles. I know facts and figures and can rattle them off if needed. But I’ll choose not to engage with those who harbor views on immigration diametrically opposed to my own. It’s a waste of time, I rationalize. I worry that I’ll just end up wasting precious time on someone unwilling to even listen.
I probably wouldn’t engage with a member of the Minutemen(sos). In fact, I supported UCLA students when they protested outside of a debate which brought the president of the California chapter to campus. The event was shut down because of worries about security. The student group eventually held the event last Tuesday, while all the students who would be likely to protest a member of the Minutemen(sos) speaking on campus were too busy with the May Day immigration rights marches and rallies across town.
But there are people who ask the hard questions and do engage in those conversations.
María Hinojosa, an award winning journalist with PBS’s NOW on the News and NPR’s Latino USA, is one of those people. She interviewed the founder and president of the Minutemen(sos), Chris Simcox. She asks him tough questions he can’t seem to answer without resorting to soundbites about criminals and terrorism. Simcox comes out of the interview looking like quite the menso. Hinojosa’s interview with Simcox reminded me of a clip from an episode of Penn & Teller Bullshit! show on the Showtime network. In the clip, they take on the Minutemen(sos) with less journalistic objectivity and more humor and profanity.
María Hinojosa is my hero. I want to be like her when I grow up. En serio.
Download the Hinojosa/Simcox podcast here. To watch the Penn & Teller clip, check youtube.
[Note: Thanks to Mex Files for writing about the Hinojosa interview. I wouldn't have ever known about it without their post on the subject.]
